Losing to bad players
I am an intermediate Ryu player. I've been playing since the release of SFIV so I have a good understanding of the game. Recently I've been having trouble beating people who are clearly worse than me. All my anti air attempts constantly get stuffed and I find myself getting beaten by the simplest tricks. And yes I am playing online.
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I agree with Ray Manuta's question about whether or not there is a question here.
That said, I think there is a fundamental flaw in thinking here. Namely, the statement:
Recently I've been having trouble beating people who are clearly worse than me
Putting aside external issues that have nothing to do with your specific gameplay (network connectivity, hardware malfunctions, etc), the hubris of the statement is it's failing.
We don't currently have player rankings for players in Super Super Street Fighter 4 (although Get Your Tournament does do a fantastic job of maintaining stats, and if they are developed, they will probably come from him). Don't bother with the player ranking of your opponent either, it's garbage; I've seen both Damdai and John Choi play on XBL and they have 0 player points. Obviously, if one only chooses to engage in non-ranked matches, then the stat means nothing (and I think we would both agree that those two players are "good" players).
That said, I think that you are too engrossed with the fact that you actually lost as opposed to finding out why you lost. A loss is a loss, you can't take that back, it's what you do with the loss afterwards that's important (here's a hint, don't get salty).
For your AA problem, the only thing I can think of is use strong SRK or time your strong SRK better. Getting caught be simple tricks is something I have a problem with as well. A lot of the times I'll get hit by random specials. If that's your problem too, I find the answer to be NOT to press buttons. Whenever I get frustrated because I'm getting hit by wake up DPs and such, I start to press more buttons. So, learn how to not press buttons and block, back dash, or jump at the correct times.
i'd say try your hardest to stick to a plan and adapt when need be i fall in this trap SOOOO many times where i just want to get inside and fck somebody up and then they dominate me so STIICK TO A PLAN as seen in this vid i shot playing as Ryu i too play as ryu maybe you can learn from some of my mistakes
I totally understand you man, I have the same issue in MvC3. I only beat people who are good at the game, or REALLY BAD. But when I run into some sort of lower-mid level scrub, he pulls some bullcrap and beats me.
Anyways, on SF4, my reccomendation is to focus on defense, defense, defense. SF4 is extremely defensive, and the last thing you want to do is to rush into a situation where your going to get hit hard.
Next tip is to look at your losses. If you lost to some stupid mistake, try to watch out for that mistake.
Try to be aware of all gimmicks (Especially against gimmick characters like Blanka, Hakan, Ibuki, Sakura, ect.), If you lose to a gimick, find out how to deal with it, so you don't have to deal with it again. This takes a while though. I had to deal with losing to gimicky Ibuki players for 2 weeks before I figured out how to abuse Balrog's defence.
Speaking of matchups, be VERY CAREFUL against characters you don't know how to fight. Gen is a very important character to learn how to fight against, because most characters can deal with him fine, but most players don't fight against Gen often. Rufus isn't as strange to fight, but he is still not common to see online.
Lastly, try to learn from better players. Watch high level play of your character, and dissect what they are doing. Are they playing offense the whole time? Defence? Are they hesitant to jump, or do they do it a bunch? Do they rely on mixups, counter attacks, block strings?
Good luck, and have fun.
If these are obviously worse players, then you're losing because you expect them to
play the game as good players do. Instead, they are unorthodox and do stuff you really don't
expect, therefor you fall for what seems shltty setups.
If you're already having a crappy day on SSF4, I'd suggest taking a few hours off from it. Play another game or just go eat or something. Get back in the game... and when you encounter a player like that again...
Here's my advice:
1. Turtle more and analyze (download your opponent)
2. When you see an opening, punish hard!!!
3. Crossup into combo. (these unorthodox players have bad timing against crossups)
Hope this helps out.
dfw jay
Best thing u can do is learn to win in different ways, most IMPORTANTLY, play footsies and zone, this is ur best tool for wining, instead of trying to play ranked matches, play a few endless battles and try to win with different tactics like
-only use normals
-try to time out ur oppenent
-learn not to al jump in, this was my biggest problem as a cammy player
-most importantly, BP dosnt really mean as much as u think so try to ignore it
I agree with Ray and liken it to a slump you're going through. I've gone through a few and, though its frustrating, its also a part of the game. Realizing your shortcomings in a given match and fixing said shortcomings is what leads to growth.
Another explanation that just recently dawned on me is that if you go into a match with more BP/PP than your opponent, you may just be going in a bit cocky and complacent. The person with the less BP/PP is going to try to the best of their abilities while you may not be trying as hard. Although it may sound odd and seem like showboating, you have to go into each match 100%. I recently read somewhere (I don't recall where) about a player named Filipino Champ being praised as someone who goes at it 100% regardless of his opponent's ability. Perhaps you can try that train of thought and see how it works for you.
I'm not trying to be a douche but was there a question here?
I'll share my experiences in terms of a "slump" that you (DeathByPoke) seem to be in.
Basically, I was losing matches I should have won. I wondered what I was doing wrong, didn't figure it out and dropped my PP from 3000 to 2300. I kept playing (in frustration).
I frequently surfed the webs to find an "answer" to what was happening to my game play. I finally found something I hadn't been doing before and seemed to work. Nowadays, I never get below 3000 PP and am working my way to a constant 3300 PP "rating".
Anyways, I guess what I'm trying to get at is: there is a light at the end of that (frustrating) tunnel. For some people it ("the journey to greatness") might be a grind like it was for me; persistence is key here as it is for everything worth it in life.
